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Post by keith on Aug 28, 2016 13:07:13 GMT -5
HOWDY Y'ALL!
Firstly congrats to both of you for making it all the way to the end. Both of your journeys are so very different which makes this FTC very interesting. I'll say that my own vote is leaning one way but the answers at FTC have already made this vote difficult. So props to both of you.
I unfortunately do not have SPECIFIC questions for either of you. I do however have a few common questions (no comparisons DW. Comparisons are boring to read for me and to write as a finalist.) I'd greatly appreciate it if both of you answered as honestly and as candidly as you can. No pressure!
Question 1:
You 2 made it to the end. The jury didn't. I'd like you to point out what you think each jurors one critical mistake was (or if you think there was more than one then you can list them all). What did we do wrong that you didn't? You don't have to go into TOO much detail if you don't want to.
Question 2:
I want each of you to say three nice things about Morgan. (This is in NO WAY a joke or sarcasm or a cheap shot at Morgan. I am dead serious about this.) This can be about her as a person or her game. Or bit of both. Upto you. But three nice things about Morgan from each of you.
Question 3:
Give an earnest compliment to Queen Alecia. (Again dead serious here) Alecia was, in my opinion, ROBBED AF because of the stupidity of a certain someone. She deserves a shout out here.
My sincere thanks to the two of you, the jury, and even the pre-jury (sans Fabio). And most of all to Saint Nick for assembling us all to play. This game was a breath of fresh air and literally SO MUCH FUN. And remember ...
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Post by keith on Aug 28, 2016 13:14:41 GMT -5
All answers in this thread HAVE to be in Comic Sans font or you lose my vote.
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liz
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Post by liz on Aug 28, 2016 17:42:15 GMT -5
Hey Nale!
Just like yesterday I've got all kinds of madness going on IRL, but here's the answer to the first question, and I'll get to the others later tonight.
It's hard for me to say that any of the jurors specifically did something "wrong" in a lot of cases that wound up losing them the game. In some cases it was bad luck, or a key challenge loss to the right person, and usually that kind of thing is unintentional, so it feels like I'm blaming them for something they couldn't control, and/or that I probably would have done in the same situation. So anyway, as y'all read over my answers please don't feel judged or blamed, because that's not the intent.
Morgan - Didn't check with Nick to find out whether he'd allow her to give a fake idol to Alecia before actually trying to do it. That gave her Alecia's black vote, which is the primary reason she left instead of Ken.
Jeffrey - Seems to have been too confident in the Icons, and didn't have the social ties to fall back on and change up the numbers when they turned on him.
Malcolm - A bit too trusting and didn't play the idol when he could have.
Taj - Was a bit too trusting with the knowledge about her double vote, and didn't capitalize on the power she had until it was too late.
Keith - Bad luck more than anything else. The only way that the situation could have been different, imo, was if we had gone with Taj and voted Ken out at six, but there's no great reason to think that it would've changed the situation all that much.
Ken - Bad luck in losing the challenge. You could ostensibly say that alienating Lindsey with the Jeff voteoff played a big role in that too, but ultimately Ken was in a hopeless situation and probably couldn't have done anything to stop his ouster, since only two votes were needed to send him packing.
Lindsey - Played too well. And that's really all it is. I was warning people as early as final eight that Darnell was likely to get dragged to the end as a jury goat and we needed to take him out before some greedy fuck took him to the end over the stronger players (WHOOPS), whereas Lindsey was a frontrunner in every single department. The choice was pretty clear cut. She'd have crushed anybody in the finals, and that's ultimately why she had to go.
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Post by kingdarnell on Aug 28, 2016 20:37:11 GMT -5
Hello Nale!!!!1 Thank YOU.
Question 1:
Morgan: Her mistake was having beefs with people and being too vocal and transparent. She would have not being the victicm of the idol play if her attitude towards you was steady. I kept a good thing with most people, no beefs, no bad blood, I was likable to everyone, no matter if I worked with them or not.
Jeff: I think the perception was that he was a power player and he was very visible. Was popular, won two individual immunities, and maybe he developed “alliances” he shouldn’t have made because he was going to break them anyway, like with Malcolm and yourself. I think Jeff kind of made it obvious who he was close to, or maybe I was too perceptive, but based on our conversations it was clear we were meh. I wanted to be steady, average, maybe forgettable, I didn’t want to win many Individual Challenges or being seen as the social, active powerhourse of the town. And especially in the second merge, I made sure everyone who was working with me was feeling comfortable and that they trusted me enough to tell me stuff. I didn’t form unecessary alliances.
Malcolm: His mistake was not being too active at the beginning, and being hard to talk to. It hurted him long term. And maybe being a little too naive. I wasn’t super active at the beginning but hey I made sure I was in the right alliances and that I could work with the right people.
Taj: I feel like Taj’s mistake was being open about her double vote and simply not being in the good side of Keith. Being seen as a little too protective of Liz didn’t help her either, when in the end Liz was willing to vote her oops. I’m not sure what did I do differently, she was a more visible version of myself. I didn’t have a double vote, I didn’t work with Liz because how can someone trust Liz, and my alliances to Ken and Keith were stronger than the ones she made maybe?
Keith: This one is hard. I felt you had what it takes but couldn’t make it happen. As much as it sucks I would have spent more time working on the people I know are “more popular” so I could be on the loop, I think you weren’t as perceptive of things. You knew Alecia and Malcolm put themselves in tough positions socially and I think you kind of sunk with them. I would NOT call myself a social awareness God, not at all, I think part of being on the majority or not is based on luck too, because there’s many moving pieces and if for example, Malcolm was close to a couple more people, things could’ve turned around for you.
Ken: I think Ken’s game was nearly perfect and solid from the get go. At beginning I remember thinking he should’ve calmed down because he was a little too visible from the first time he posted, he had a signature and stuff. In these games, people find ways of looking at people and making them “threats” for the most stupid reasons, and when people are as delusional and self absorbed as, say, Liz, and they get obsessed by you because you’re a little more active than other people, then you’re in trouble. That would be the only thing I could list as a mistake. You want to be average, you don’t want to stand out, you don’t want to be extra special.
Lindsey: Can’t say much negatives for Linds, she should’ve gotten along with Malcolm and Liz, or at least find a way so they didn’t care about her as much.
Question 2:
I liked Morgan a lot.
She is nice, funny and talkative. She has good taste for rep choices. She is sassy and does what she wants.
Question 3:
Alecia and I got along so well. I really liked her when she felt like talking, our conversations would actually be very fluent and honestly I wanted her to stay around. I tried to help her at final ten by telling her what to do but she had things figured out, or at least she thought she did. But hey I wouldn’t have guessed in a million years she was that good of a liar and that she’d have a secret alliance. She was very underrated. Alecia for Second Chances!
Disclaimer Also HELLO LIZ. If you want to drag my weave I’ll drag yours. You're NO “greedy fuck”. Your challenge wins and your idol bullcrap don’t take away how you would get online 20 minutes a day and the fact you are delusional. You're as perceptive as a bag of cheetos and TO THIS DAY you have no idea what was going on around you. Your actual social or strategical game was waaay below average so be careful who you're calling a goat. I can firmly say I outwitted and I outplayed you in more than one round, without idols and without immunity wins, muah. xoxo
Thanks for the questions old man, and for the memories, hope I can count with your vote.
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Post by liz on Aug 28, 2016 23:57:35 GMT -5
Easy peasy. Morgan was always one of my favorite people in the entire game, and it really frustrated me that I wasn't able to work with both of you simultaneously due to some grudges and stuff.
Compliment the first: Morgan had a fantastic attitude. She was sassy, she was opinionated, and she was pretty direct, and those are qualities that are bae as hell. I loved every conversation I had with her, whether it was shooting the breeze or strategizing, or whatever else we got up to. And that's a rare thing. A lot of times people who are sassy and opinionated and direct can come off as supremely arrogant or tryhardish, and Morgan never did. Her attitude was just sort of... her. She was who she was, and she owned it.
Compliment the second: Morgan was unbelievably intuitive. She had some amazing reads on various people in the game, and from what I understand most of her guesses about people were totally on point. That was both impressive and intimidating.
Compliment the third: Morgan was an all-around solid player. I know that her social game wasn't always looked upon positively, but I don't think that people necessarily understood what she was doing or where she was going strategically. She had me completely believing that the two of us were a solid two, while at the same time running around and making connections with the people against me. If it hadn't been for the black vote, there's really no doubt in my mind that Morgan could have been a solid contender for the win when it started getting down to the wire.
DAMMIT KEITH I SAID I WAS SORRY. I made a mistake, and I went after Alecia for the wrong reasons, and I absolutely regretted it the second that I found out.
So, here goes.
Alecia. I would like to take this opportunity to officially apologize for that colossal fuckup. You and I didn't have a phenomenal start to things, and that's entirely my fault. I drew some incorrect conclusions, made some bad assumptions, and that wound up costing me what could have been one of the best friendships of the game.
Even though we were on different sides for a while, I think that I probably learned more from you than anybody else. You were an incredibly mature player. After the survey challenge, you could easily have walled yourself off from me, but instead you chose to use the fact that we were voted "Two who most hate each other" as a springboard to get a conversation going. And we worked out our grudges and we got along beautifully, because you had the emotional maturity not to take things personally. And again, when Natalie left, you were furious with the people who betrayed the girl's alliance, but after that you humbled yourself and apologized for the outburst and kept moving forward. That kind of willingness to forgive and move on is pretty rare these days, and it's one of the many reasons that I feel terrible for having misjudged you. So I hope that you have a ton of success in whatever game you find yourself in next.
Thanks for the questions, Nale! Good luck deciding your vote, and may the glory of Jefra's countenance shine brightly upon you in all of your future endeavours.
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Post by keith on Aug 29, 2016 0:21:18 GMT -5
DAMMIT KEITH I SAID I WAS SORRY. I made a mistake, and I went after Alecia for the wrong reasons, and I absolutely regretted it the second that I found out. FTR, when I said "a certain someone" being the reason Alecia got voted off I was referring to myself.
Thanks for both of your answers, Darnell and Liz. This decision is still not at all easy for me lmao but I really appreciated both of your answers!
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