Post by kenhoang on Aug 27, 2016 13:54:17 GMT -5
Hello, Ken here!
Congrats to the both of you for making it where you have! IMO the endgame for each of you was very different but also very strong. At the time I was voted out I was definitely leaning one way, but I think I'm back towards the middle again, and am looking at each of your performances and answers to ALL questions throughout this tribal.
DARNELL
Darnell, you were a solid ally to me and my ride-or-die F2. I would have certainly taken you to the end if I had won the last two immunities, but whether I would have won the whole game? Ehhhh I'm not sure. I'm not superrrr loved around here for some of the moves I made, and you'll probably face the same problem. That being said, you being the only player to not have a single vote against them this game is pretty impressive, though I can't say I was always sure that it was your own social doing or not.
1. Say I win F4 immunity, how does the rest of the game play out for you? What would happen if I, you, or whoever would stay for F3 (Lindsey/Liz) won immunity at F3?
2. Why tell Keith that people were voting for Liz at F9? It seemed to work out for you overall, but to me it was a really dumb thing that would have backfired on most people. I know that no one was telling you the vote, but to me, it seems that you really just panicked. There were at least three hours until deadline IIRC, plenty of time to tell Keith in the last hour/half-hour or so, if people STILL weren't talking to you. I know I was really busy that night, Lindsey I think was, idk about Taj or Jeff. And to be fair, we were on ALL DAY. I feel like you came on for the first time since challenge results the previous day, panicked, and didn't feel like waiting an hour for a response. I gave you a response the second I could, and I feel like the other three of us would've done the same. What were the positive/negative effects of that decision?
LIZ
Liz, being on the outs of a majority alliance at the merge definitely did not set you up to be in a great position going forward. You found the idol, which was quickly used effectively to escape being the merge boot. As things winded down, your challenge prowess was far and away impressive enough that you were able to scrape by to the end, defeating the odds and overcoming all but one of the 5 person "Icons" majority that entered the merge.
Still, I feel like a lot of your path here was luck. If Darnell hadn't told Keith you were being voted for at merge, you'd be done. If Darnell and I had pushed against Taj a little more at F7, you'd be done. If you had lost the F5 immunity, F3 immunity, and probably the F4 immunity? You'd be done. I feel like your social game wasn't nearly on par with Darnell's, and while you WERE in a minority, someone like Keith played an immensely better game in a similar position, and would probably have squashed Darnell had he made it to F2. Instead, I think you and Darnell have a reasonably equal shot.
1. What was your gameplan going into the merge? Who did you want to align with, what was the path YOU wanted, and how close did that come to actually happening?
2. Had you lost immunity at F4 or F5, do you think you'd be sitting here? What was your social path going forward at that point? To me, Taj was your only chance of getting farther socially up to that point, and you had just voted her out. The minority you fell into was very dysfunctional, causing a freaking 4-1-1-1 vote at F7, and it seemed to just show you guys were evidently confused and way out of the loop. If you can, prove me wrong.
BOTH
This is a nice jury question I took from the host of Good and Evil, so shoutout to Justin!
I'd like you to create a chart (Excel, Numbers, or Google Sheets) with players on the Y-axis, and the round of the game on the X-axis.
Use a color coding system to show your relationship with each player, each round, throughout the game.
I'd then like you to choose 5 points on the chart where there was a social change made in your game, for better or for worse, and briefly elaborate on it in your response.
You can use whatever color-coding system or fonts or WHATEVER you want really, if you just get the basic look down.
EXAMPLE
The chart should look a lot better than this, my example here is extremely basic, drafted in about 5 minutes, the colors aren't filled in, and I wouldn't care much of it. The chart should be CLEAN and EASY TO READ, so no freakin Wing-Dings or some other terrible font.
I'm glad to be here helping make this decision, and I wish you both the best of luck!
Oh well, I told Keith what was going on with detail because maybe my position within MY alliance wasn’t the best, maybe I needed new people to trust me. Thanks to ME, Liz survived that vote (I didn't know she had the idol). I stopped being mad, I forgave Taj, Ken and Lindsey because they apologized and had reasons for it, besides I was offline, I got over it.
2. Why tell Keith that people were voting for Liz at F9? It seemed to work out for you overall, but to me it was a really dumb thing that would have backfired on most people. I know that no one was telling you the vote, but to me, it seems that you really just panicked. There were at least three hours until deadline IIRC, plenty of time to tell Keith in the last hour/half-hour or so, if people STILL weren't talking to you. I know I was really busy that night, Lindsey I think was, idk about Taj or Jeff. And to be fair, we were on ALL DAY. I feel like you came on for the first time since challenge results the previous day, panicked, and didn't feel like waiting an hour for a response. I gave you a response the second I could, and I feel like the other three of us would've done the same. What were the positive/negative effects of that decision?
LIZ
Liz, being on the outs of a majority alliance at the merge definitely did not set you up to be in a great position going forward. You found the idol, which was quickly used effectively to escape being the merge boot. As things winded down, your challenge prowess was far and away impressive enough that you were able to scrape by to the end, defeating the odds and overcoming all but one of the 5 person "Icons" majority that entered the merge.
Still, I feel like a lot of your path here was luck. If Darnell hadn't told Keith you were being voted for at merge, you'd be done. If Darnell and I had pushed against Taj a little more at F7, you'd be done. If you had lost the F5 immunity, F3 immunity, and probably the F4 immunity? You'd be done. I feel like your social game wasn't nearly on par with Darnell's, and while you WERE in a minority, someone like Keith played an immensely better game in a similar position, and would probably have squashed Darnell had he made it to F2. Instead, I think you and Darnell have a reasonably equal shot.
1. What was your gameplan going into the merge? Who did you want to align with, what was the path YOU wanted, and how close did that come to actually happening?
2. Had you lost immunity at F4 or F5, do you think you'd be sitting here? What was your social path going forward at that point? To me, Taj was your only chance of getting farther socially up to that point, and you had just voted her out. The minority you fell into was very dysfunctional, causing a freaking 4-1-1-1 vote at F7, and it seemed to just show you guys were evidently confused and way out of the loop. If you can, prove me wrong.
BOTH
This is a nice jury question I took from the host of Good and Evil, so shoutout to Justin!
I'd like you to create a chart (Excel, Numbers, or Google Sheets) with players on the Y-axis, and the round of the game on the X-axis.
Use a color coding system to show your relationship with each player, each round, throughout the game.
I'd then like you to choose 5 points on the chart where there was a social change made in your game, for better or for worse, and briefly elaborate on it in your response.
You can use whatever color-coding system or fonts or WHATEVER you want really, if you just get the basic look down.
EXAMPLE
The chart should look a lot better than this, my example here is extremely basic, drafted in about 5 minutes, the colors aren't filled in, and I wouldn't care much of it. The chart should be CLEAN and EASY TO READ, so no freakin Wing-Dings or some other terrible font.
I'm glad to be here helping make this decision, and I wish you both the best of luck!
